On Sat, Mar 20, 2004 at 12:39:23AM -0600, Kevin Myers wrote: > It is utterly ridiculous that simply because I voiced concerns about and > would like for the ability to have gimp scripts execute properly from the > command line under Windows that you accuse me of "making the GIMP suck". > The suggestions that I offered earlier this evening were only thrown out for > consideration, and I didn't try to force those down anyone's throat. All > that I asked was that GIMP developers try to give adequate consideration to > the needs of Windows based gimp users rather than selecting an > implementation that I was worried might have an adverse impact. FWIW, the suggestion was ill-researched. (foo image=bar) is so very very un-Scheme like, which is surprising to hear from someone who has apparently written scripts from scratch. It pays to be versed in the language you're dealing with. > Some bias towards Linux and other Unix based systems is completely > understandable and acceptable to everyone. We all appreciate the > deficiencies of Windows and its poor record of adhering to standards (though > there are *many* similar examples in the *nix world as well). We also > appreciate that the Linux community is making the biggest share of > contributions to the GIMP development effort. > > What I don't appreciate, is your apparent lack of sympathy towards users who > have *no* choice but to run under Windows (for any of numerous reasons) and > who simply desire to use the gimp (just as you claim to), and to help > enhance it to meet *their* needs, just as you enhance it to meet your own > needs under Linux. The gimp is an open source product, and is also > supported and developed by Windows users, not just *nix heads. So what > gives you the right to presume that only *nix developers can own and control > the GIMP (as your comments seem to imply), and to ignore the needs of > Windows based users and the feedback and proposals of Windows based > contributors? Except there are a number of ways already to workaround the deficiencies of the windows shell. Even if --batch - is broken, you could always save a script out to a file, put it in the scripts dir, and call it from the command line. > I'm not saying at all that has happened in this specific instance regarding > the issues that I raised earlier this evening and the subsequent discussion. > What I am saying Carol, is that some of you appear to be having a rather > knee jerk reaction against someone else who is merely trying to help the > GIMP better support the operating system that they are using, no different > than anyone else who might happen to be using some other OS. If the > approach that I suggested won't work or will cause real problems under > another OS, that's fine. But what isn't fine is to say in essence "we don't > care about Windows users and contributors, and we're not going to listen to > their input", which is basically what I got out of your reply. It's also better to research your suggestions a little, so that they don't sound completely out there, thereby reinforcing the viewpoint that Windows users are clueless. -Yosh
