i was thinking about a new library for gimp and game players. this could be called (as the subject says) libgimpcheckmate. this little library could let the game players do whatever they want with pixels and the person using TheGIMP for say something like pixel manipulation for graphics or print could not even install that crap. the gamers could have their own little gimp thing going and take rapha?ls terrible mangling of the mmmaybe web site with them and develop libgimpcheckmate all they want leaving graphics people out of their little manipulation schemes and twisted pixel ideas. at this point, i am frightened to let them have anything to do with gegl as well. any thoughts on a little catch all game crap library like this. they can host it on sourceforge even. carol