On Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:41:08 -0600, "Stephen J Baker" <sjbaker@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > MIPmapping works by creating successively reduced resolution images - > each (typically) half the resolution of the previous one. > > When a MIPmapped image has alpha, this down-filtering produces semi-translucent > pixels in areas of the image that were formerly completely transparent. I don't follow your argument. Even the simplest downsampling techniques ("nearest neighbors", no linear or cubic interpolation) work by combining the weighted values of the pixels (all colors are weighted by their opacity). So the relative weight of a fully transparent pixel is zero, which means that if you are filtering four pixels (half resolution) and three of them are transparent, then the result will only have the contribution of the fourth pixel, with a lower opacity (1/4). The fully transparent pixels will not contribute to the downsampled result. > If GIMP were to do something like (say) making all the transparent pixels > be solidly black, you'd see a dark halo. This is a really common problem > and GIMP is the tool that saves you. I don't see how this would happen, except if the downsampling filter would be incorrectly processing the R, G, B and A values independently (without weighting by A), which is obviously incorrect. We had a bunch of bug reports about GIMP plug-ins doing this incorrectly and many of them have already been fixed thanks to the contributions of David Necas (yeti) and others. Follow the dependencies from: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70335 If some other software has the same bugs as some of these plug-ins, I don't think that it is the GIMP's job to make sure that the software works despite its bugs. Of course we should not break it on purpose if we have no good reason to do it (i.e., if there is no other benefit in clearing the transparent pixels) but we should not be prevented from improving the GIMP even if that triggers some pre-existing bugs in some other software. We can implement specific workarounds if someone thinks that it is worth it, though. -Raphaël