On 2003-06-16 at 1043.03 +0300, Dov Grobgeld typed this: > I just had a look at the two plug-ins for fun of it and they > doing part of the problem differently, which means that the perl > program looks more complicated than necessarry. The > scheme plugin uses the plug-in plug-in-colors-channel-mixer to > do the actual color mixing, whereas the perl plug-in accesses the > pixels itself. Accessing pixels always gets dirty, because of the tile > based approach of gimp. Actually, I think that Marc Lehmann's use > of PDL for the job is very elegant. But I'm sure that it can be > confusing to have to learn another huge sublanguage (which PDL > is). > the perl plug-ins were/are wonderful. i use the heck out of some of them. i ask only not to have to *read* them anymore. something about that language makes this plug-in a sad read. i hope i did not say not to write them. it is the reading part that i cannot endure. i have done everything that is humanly possible to get perl ported to gimp-1.3 and the plug-ins as well. okay, short of begging a scary hero. it is not my fault that it was easier to find people to rewrite them in other script. how about making a splash screen contest so i could show the splash that me and bit and cameron made? i can't read it. and when i can, it can be chilling. > So if you want to compare syntax, please compare the same approach > in the different languages. > > I'm curious, does the python plug-in allow you to access the > pixels? > Dov, i have no idea. i just know that i am able to use the little pieces. it doesn't allow my imagination to run away with me. i can start working on a plug-in (armed with a lot of little pieces located in two directories on my computer), get distracted, go back to it in a few weeks and still be able to figure out what was going on. okay, in truth, i got stuck at the same place with both scripting languages on my cross-stitch plug-in. the point where the xpm gets read in and handled. when i get the chance, i think i can actually handle this with python, eventually and with a lot of help; but. i don't think i will ever be able to sort through it with perl. and i am truly humbled by those who can. good heavens, please don't stop writing perl! carol > On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:04:52AM -0400, Carol Spears wrote: > > On 2003-06-15 at 2031.16 -0700, Jeff Trefftzs typed this: > > > > > > Debugging: you might try firing up the script-fu console in the GIMP > > > and testing code snippets there. I've found this to work fairly well. > > > My main problem is getting my head back into lisp space ... > > > > > Eeek! > > > > Jeff, just say no! > > > > all three versions of gimp i have used, 1.0 1.2 and 1.3 have a nifty > > python plug-in complete with browser and console as well. > > > > today i read two plug-ins for red-eye removal. the script-fu just > > looked like gibberish: > > http://cs.uhh.hawaii.edu/~jeschke/photography/articles/gimp/RedEye2/red-eye.scm > > > > this one. this was the saddest thing i ever read. i never want to read > > something this sad again. please. it is not the authors fault. it is > > not the fault of the person who ported gimp to it. nor the gtk guy that > > did it. not the original authors of this scripting language either. i > > don't know why it is so sad. you have to stop making me try to read this. > > mercy! > > http://fmg-www.cs.ucla.edu/fmg-members/geoff/digicam/redeye > > > > i would like to read it written in python. it is direct and the modular > > part is starting to make sense to me. it makes me angry (okay > > frustrated) not sad. that is better. please someone write this in > > python quick so we can compare before i forget! > > > > carol > > > > -- > > The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up. > > _______________________________________________ > > Gimp-developer mailing list > > Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer > > -- > ___ ___ > / o \ o \ > Dov Grobgeld ( o o ) o | > The Weizmann Institute of Science, Israel \ o /o o / > "Where the tree of wisdom carries oranges" | | | | > _| |_ _| |_ > > _______________________________________________ > Gimp-developer mailing list > Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer -- The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up.
