On Mon, May 21, 2001 at 03:14:51PM -0400, Tom Rathborne wrote: ... > > I have placeholder pages for most of the site at: > http://wilber.gimp.org:8192/ > At the moment I am working on copying the existing content over to the > new site. > ... > > There are a few reasons that this hasn't happened, though. All of the > people that I have talked to about doing the site have different > opinions on what language/architecture/design should be used to do it, > making it very difficult to cooperate on the project. It seems to me > that there is nobody driving this as a _project_. I am most certainly > not a project manager. I am an ok content writer and web designer and > (IMHO) a fairly capable information system architect. > > My site template system is pretty simple for content writers and > designers to work with, and the code is pretty clean and fast, and it > is running on wilber already. Another interesting point is that the > titles are generated using the GIMP and cached as static files. So > there's an interesting use of the GIMP involved. You can read a bit > more at: > http://wilber.gimp.org:8192/about/site.html > > Those of you with accounts on wilber are more than welcome to look > at everything in: > /gimp00/web-newgimp > ... > > I don't really care if it's my mod_perl system or PHP4 or some other > random thing that ends up being the new GIMP site, but I do agree that > it should be done. What do you think of using Fabric (http://www.eventloop.com/fabric/). This is what www.gtk.org will be using. I prefer it because I wrote it to solve some very specific problems I believe exist with most other templating systems. And, using Fabric, we could do a multi-lingual dynamic site. (It was one of the design criteria of Fabric.) The new gtk.org is available in GNOME CVS as 'web-gtkorg'. This isn't used yet, as I just started on the new dynamic sections. Everything under templates/static are static pages. Adding new ones is easy, and requires no code. Dynamic Java modules can load templates and construct the pages as desired; currently, I use this on the download page to contain links to the most up-to-date glib/gtk src files that it finds on the ftp site (dynamically, since it's on the same machine). > > Unfortunately I do not know if there is anyone out there who can speak > authoritatively on all this. If someone steps up and says "we're > using this system, you work on the code, you work on the content", I'm > sure it will be done very soon. We need someone to take charge -- and > that's not me. I can speak authoritatively. But I hesitate to dicate anything. My policy, ever since we put up the first pages, has been that he who does the work will have the say. I already know how it would be if I did most of the work. -Shawn -- Shawn T. Amundson amundson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Research and Development http://www.eventloop.com/ EventLoop, Inc. (651) 999-0130 "The assumption that the universe looks the same in every direction is clearly not true in reality." - Stephen Hawking