David, thank you again for your help. "Personally, I work mostly with embedded systems" Years ago I also did embedded system design... hardware & software. Wrote in ASM in those days. "I also do a lot of my development without an IDE, but with a simpler editor" Yep, that is a good way to go when you can. Notepad or Notepad++ are a couple of simple Windows text editors. There are many others. -- "ur" is spelt "your", and "I" has a capital letter in English.-- Was thumb typing on a tablet and so that is what you got :) "Don't forget that C and C++ are completely different languages, which just happen to share a sizeable common subset." Roger that. Thanks again David. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Which-GUI-IDE---or-Framework-for-newbie-C-C%2B%2B-Windows-Dev--tp33440463p33443747.html Sent from the gcc - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.