David, thanks for sharing your comments about ide's for gcc. BTW, i meant gcc when i typed vcc... Woops. I posted here because i was hopeful of getting gcc users opinions. If i posted on any of the ide sites they would all be fans of that ide... I dont mind setting up a linux box for gcc dev but is that the way to dev a windows app? Thanks again for ur help. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Which-GUI-IDE---or-Framework-for-newbie-C-C%2B%2B-Windows-Dev--tp33440463p33441170.html Sent from the gcc - Help mailing list archive at Nabble.com.