Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 22:06 +0100, Krzysztof Kotlenga a écrit :
>> Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
>>> Le jeudi 26 novembre 2009 à 13:14 -0500, Behdad Esfahbod a écrit :
>>>
>>> <font>
>>> <family>some family name</family>
>>> <style>some style name</style>
>>> <format>some font format name</format>
>>> <unicode>
>>> <min>some-unicode-value</min>
>>> <max>some-greater-unicode-value</max>
>>> <unicode>
>>> <lang>some fontconfig orth id</lang>
>>> </font>
>>
>> It looks like a reinvention of what is already there.
>>
>> <match target="font">
>> <test name="family"><string>...</string></test>
>> <test name="style"><string>...</string></test>
>> <test name="whatever">...</test>
>> <edit name="whatever">...</edit>
>> </match>
>
> What is already there is so verbose very few people use it
^^^^^^^^
You never know...
> and when they do use it they usually mix up things and it does not
> work the way they expect it to work due to all the layers of
> verbosity that get in the way of human parsing
I agree it's verbose, but not without a reason. You seem to miss the
fact that fontconfig allows arbitrary properties. This is something
that can't be done with tags.
> I've never seen problems with simple succinct statements like :
> <alias>
> [snip]
> </alias>
Well, to quote fonts-conf(5), "alias elements provide a shorthand
notation (...)". So, you'd like to see introduced another form of
shorthand notation. Another change causing user visible complexity to
grow (!). As a user, I wish it won't happen.
> OTOH the match target/test is a reinvention of emacs' let's use lisp
> syntax as configuration syntax hell
This doesn't sound like technical merit.
>>> And it would also be useful to define a <not/> operator, for example
>>> <not>
>>> <lang>ja_Ja</lang>
>>> </not>
>>
>> <test compare="not_eq">
>> ?
>
> Another oververbose statement
You can't please everyone. :)
PS. Isn't this horribly OT?
PPS. I'm sorry for sending this twice.
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