Re: [PATCH] idle-prof: append output cpu idleness data to terse log

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On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 2:13 PM, Sitsofe Wheeler <sitsofe@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On 17 July 2018 at 15:30, Alireza Haghdoost <haghdoost@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 9:18 AM, Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
> > <elliott@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: fio-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <fio-owner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf
> >>> Of Friendy.Su@xxxxxxxx
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2018 2:46 AM
> >>> To: fio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> Cc: No.Tanaka@xxxxxxxx; Hajime.Tomura@xxxxxxxx; Friendy.Su@xxxxxxxx
> >>> Subject: [PATCH] idle-prof: append output cpu idleness data to terse
> >>> log
> >>>
> >>> cpu idleness data only output to normal and json log,
> >>> also output to terse log.
> >>>
> >>> Signed-off-by: friendy-su <friendy.su@xxxxxxxx>
> >>> ---
> >>>  HOWTO      |  4 +++-
> >>>  idletime.c | 19 +++++++++++++++++++
> >>>  stat.c     |  2 ++
> >>>  3 files changed, 24 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> >>>
> >>> diff --git a/HOWTO b/HOWTO
> >>> index 70eed280..497e8cb1 100644
> >>> --- a/HOWTO
> >>> +++ b/HOWTO
> >>> @@ -3564,8 +3564,10 @@ will be a disk utilization section.
> >>>  Below is a single line containing short names for each of the fields
> >>> in the
> >>>  minimal output v3, separated by semicolons::
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> terse_version_3;fio_version;jobname;groupid;error;read_kb;read_bandwi
> >> ...
> >>> +
> >>> terse_version_3;fio_version;jobname;groupid;error;read_kb;read_bandwi
> >> ...
> >>
> >> Since the terse format is not self-describing, new fields require
> >> a version bump (see -terse-version).
> >>
> >> Maybe one of the versions should print out the field names as the first
> >> line, so it becomes self-describing.  I guess the json format already
> >> provides that functionality, so it might not be necessary.
> >>
> > How about adding an extra command option like --terse-header that
> > prints out the header only? It is hard to keep track of these version
> > changes in one place at the user manual or some blog post.
> > with a terse header command option, I can ignore the terse version and
> > adjust my test scripts to query the header first before running the
> > test, then pull the right column after the test finishes.
>
> You would then need to document all the terse formats because you
> never know which one someone will use (it looks like there are four:
> http://fio.readthedocs.io/en/latest/fio_doc.html#cmdoption-terse-version
> ). At this stage shouldn't we be nudging people towards JSON which is
> more self describing and easier to extend in a backwards compatible
> manner?

I am on board with your suggestion but not every user might have a
time/resource to re-implement their existing test script to work with
json. We should stop adding more versions of the terse. Otherwise, If
we want to continue supporting the terse format, I recommend to figure
out a programmatic way to handle its complexity.
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