Re: F10 crystal ball gazing

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 10:51:53AM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:26:12AM +0300, Pasi K?rkk?inen wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 11:07:15AM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
> > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2008 at 05:45:51PM +0100, Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jul 04, 2008 at 10:24:31PM +0100, Andy Burns wrote:
> > > > > Given that xen is entering feature freeze for updated release ~August
> > > > > is it too early to ask what the *hopes* are for xen in fedora10?
> > > > > 
> > > > > xen 3.3.0 (or late rc) or is this still likely to be 3.2.1 or 3.2.2?
> > > > 
> > > > Even though we don't have any Dom0 I'll update it to 3.3.0 for the xen
> > > > RPM and hypervisor. This will at least let people build their own legacy
> > > > Xen kernel from upstream's 2.6.18 xen kernel if they're lucky enough to
> > > > have hardware which works with it.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > If pv_ops dom0 won't be ready for F10, would it be possible to ship
> > > xensource 2.6.18 based dom0 kernel? At least that's supported upstream.. 
> > > 
> > > Would be better than nothing.. 
> > 
> > Or maybe rhel5 kernel? 
> 
> No, this is no better - it is still 2.6.18 based which is unsupportable
> when Fedora is in 2.6.26
> 

Ok.

> > I understand maintaining multiple kernels is a pain, but then again rhel5
> > (and xensource 2.6.18 xen) kernels are maintained anyway upstream..
> 
> It is not just multiple kernels - it is the age of the kernels - a kernel
> which is 8 versions behind the non-Xen kernel is not supportable.
> 

Yep.. I guess it would create too many problems with other packages/software
assuming/needing something from the kernel. 

> The situation is either Dom0 pv_ops, or no Dom0 at all. Those are the
> only two viable options that exist. We can't continue to waste effort
> on something as old as 2.6.18
> 

Ok. 

Thanks for clearing this up (again) :)

Now I just wish all the best for pv_ops dom0 work.. 

Anything people could help with? Any status updates? 

-- Pasi

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