On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 11:55, <alan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have to admit, this is the most painful Fedora installation I have ever > done. (And I have used them all.) > > The networking came up as IPv6 *only*. My router does not do IPv6 and my > ISP (Qwest) does not know when their network ever will. In order to get it > to work I had to hack files in /etc/sysconfig and use dhclient to get an > address since the Network Manager applet is dumbed down to absolute > worthlessness. (More on that later.) The networking problems seem to have > been fixed, but there were far too many of them. (Having no default route > for fixed IP addresses was a pain.) > > If I were to grade Gnome 3 it would be "incomplete". It looks nice, but > it is missing large chunks of functionality. For example, network > configuration is useless. Gnome screen saver's config panel is no where to > be found. To switch the desktop with a mouse now takes 2-3 clicks where it > used to take one. There are no applets to be found. The desktop is bare, > unless you use an the Gtweakui program to hack it. (Which most users will > not ever know about since it is not installed by default.) The option to > use the "classic style" is a lie. It is still Gnome 3, but with a > kinda-sorta Gnome 2 look. (With all the above still missing.) > > Gnome 2 had similar problems. When it was first released, it was dumbed > down and was lacking most of the functionality of Gnome 1. Now that they > finally have Gnome 2 working well I guess they felt they had to pitch it > all out and start over. This new design looks nice, but is not that > usable. A UI should make it easier to get to what you want to do, not add > useless mouse clicks. > > My biggest complaint though is the kernel. I am getting kernel panics in > ext4! (When I can get a log I will post it. It does not get written to > disk since the filesystem dies.) > > Another thing... I cannot find a way to disable the Nouveau kernel module. > I have tried all the methods that worked before (rdblacklist and the > modules blacklist.) Nothing seems to work. I am going to have to rebuild > the kernel rpm. Why is this more difficult? > > The reason I went to this version when I did was due to a sort of double > bind. Fedora 13 uses 2.6.34. USB3 does not work well with that kernel. (I > have already spoken with the maintainer. She thinks she knows the cause > and is going to backport the patch.) 2.6.35+ works with USB3, but another > program I use often does not work with my hand-rolled kernel. (Threading > issue.) Upgrade seemed like a good option. Now I am not so sure. > > Hopefully I will be able to make this thing work. I may have to go to KDE > for a bit until the Gnome developers finish writing it. (How long that > will take, I have no idea...) What kind of hardware is this (smolt id?) what kind of local network setup (my test boxes have gotten DHCP correctly so far but it is a limited setup)? -- Stephen J Smoogen. "The core skill of innovators is error recovery, not failure avoidance." Randy Nelson, President of Pixar University. "Let us be kind, one to another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle." -- Ian MacLaren -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
