On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: manager is a port of Metacity to Clutter You call it tablet oriented > but I dont think the UI will work well on a tablet and GNOME developers > haven't targeted it towards tablets either. If you want to use a > different DE or WM, go ahead. That is a different discussion from a > distribution default. There are clearly strong concerns being voiced by a number of people around the available functionality of Gnome3 as it stands today in its current state of development. It is clearly a learning curve but most people are prepared to learn if the product is worthy of the time needed to make that effort. It seems to me that the complaints are not really that there is a huge difference between the old and the new (they are of course very different) but that the new does not allow the user to "do" certain things that they could before - and if the things that a user wants to do with the DE are part and parcel of normal daily workflow and it can't be done in Gnome3 then that user will have to find an alternative. Sometimes things can be done but in a way that takes more time - and people will resist it if that is the case. In other cases previously available functionality has no real equivalent in Gnome 3. I am sure that list could be compiled - but for example one thing that for me is an absolute must-have is the easy ability to make an icon (preferably in teh dash but could be on the desktop) that will launch an application that is not in the default set, or an application that has not been downloaded as a package - simple example would be that I want to be able to run a nightly version of Thunderbird and keep ahead of the released version in the rpm packages. Until now it has been easy to make a desktop icon that will refer to the binary and execute it. This is possible with some effort in Gnome3 but is not entirely straightforward (making a .desktop file). Until now it has been a few clicks and it's done. This functionality is still a few clicks to make the icon in KDE4.6 as current. This one piece of lost functionality alone may be enough to make me switch to a different DE but everyone has their own thoughts. Maybe this will be added in at some point in the future of Gnome3 but if it is not there when F15 is released then I will have to switch. There may be other things too - like how easy is normal workflow and running the day to day tasks on the desktop? Is a normal (even if different to what we are used to now) workflow possible for most people with Gnome3 then it will remain used and popular - if not then people will look for a DE which will allow an efficient normal workflow..... -- mike c -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test