Ian Pilcher <arequipeno <at> gmail.com> writes: > ... > > It was stated that GNOME upstream, to use the Ford analogy, have eliminated > > the panel/menu/desktop-icon desktop metaphor from existence in Fedora 'by > > fiat'. I find that a pretty silly argument given the choices that are > > available. > ... > In the case of GNOME, the developers of that project have made a > decision that effectively removes the GNOME 2 interface as an option for > many users -- the vast majority of whom do not have the time and/or > skills to build and maintain a desktop environment. We will never know > which interface would have been more successful in the FLOSS desktop > environment "market". That's unfortunate, but it's also probably > inevitable in a world of limited resources. > ... Bill, take a look at this: http://live.gnome.org/UsabilityProject/ "What's important is not that we can conceive the idea, but that when we actually test it on people you discover it doesn't work... your intuition is wrong." - Daniel M. Russell (IBM Almaden / Xerox PARC)". That is their own motto to live by, for both Gnome 2 and 3 ! How do you feel now about your statement above regarding proven and accepted elements of Gnome 2 DE that were eliminated ? Knowledge and experience they themselves and others gained over many years of designing and user-testing optimal and effective desktop environments ! Now this: http://gnome3.org/ "A satisfying experience, whatever kind of computer you use: GNOME 3 will feel right at home on netbooks as well as larger machines" Really ? Like servers. workstations, PCs, notebooks ? Used by RH enterprise customers, non-technical businesses (big and small), users who do not sleep with their computers but use them as *tools* to accomplish their daily tasks ? Why did Fedora decide to abandon Gnome 2, instead of offering Gnome 3 as an experimental college-level project via a spin (as one poster here already asked), representing a work-in-progress where geeks still learn their Computer Science principles and skills ? Do you know that even on Gnome 3 Shell devs (and users) list people admit that they possibly boxed themselves into a corner and now are not willing or able to reverse the course where things went wrong ? It is a Fedora problem, and it will be a Red Hat problem in due time ! JB -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test