On 10/19/2010 4:02 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >>> Then the X server is starting just fine, it's your desktop session >>> > > that's broken. >>> > > >>> > > When in doubt, boot to runlevel 3 and run "X -retro". You should see >>> > > the classic ugly stipple and X cursor, and control-alt-backspace will >>> > > return you to a command prompt. If that works, then X works, and you >>> > > need to figure out why your desktop won't load. >>> > > >>> > > - ajax >> > Thanks for that. I had suspected there could be an issue with the >> > desktop not starting properly. I probably should have posed the question >> > on the fedora-kde list. > at a guess, you may have desktop effects enabled in KDE which worked > fine with the proprietary driver but don't work with nouveau. except that the problem started while the proprietary driver was still installed - I removed it to make sure it wasn't an nVidia problem; also, beyond whatever desktop effects are enabled as defaults, I almost never enable any of them; if anyone would like to see the document I created with all the logs I thought could be pertinent, it's here (warning, it's a big document!) http://www.tehogeeservices.com/files/Fresh_bootup_logs_101014.pdf it's been a mind-twister, this issue -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test