Nice commentary on this subject, Chris. And dead on. --Xaphir --- On Fri, 10/15/10, Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > From: Christopher A. Williams <chriswfedora@xxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: !! NVIDIA WORKS !!! > To: "For testers of Fedora development releases" <test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Friday, October 15, 2010, 1:59 PM > On Fri, 2010-10-15 at 12:33 -0500, > Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > >>>>> "SR" == Scott Robbins <scottro@xxxxxxxxxx> > writes: > > > > SR> I've never quite understood this logic. > If it's working, there is a > > SR> change in Fedora, and it doesn't work, this is > NVidia's job to fix? > > > > Yes, precisely. > > > > Their code is not open; we can't fix it. Who > else's job could it > > possibly be but their when they are the only ones with > the code? > > Actually, this is an oversimplified view based on pure > ideology - and > exactly the one which causes issues between the OpenSource > and other > communities. > > It assumes that Fedora's code is perfect because it's open, > and that > because nVidia's code broke from a change in Fedora code > that the > problem must be nVidia's. History proves something > different - that the > real problem could be in either code base, and has been > before. > > Since nVidia is not likely to open their code anytime soon, > the issues > of how to troubleshoot where the problems lie can't be > completely > collaborative. And this decision by nVidia means they wind > up having to > look at both code bases to find the problem, with little > help from > Fedora Project. They then either patch their own code, > submit a patch to > the Fedora Project team (which then has to go through > Fedora's normal > approval process), or perhaps do both. > > The conflict lies in that the Fedora "everything must be > OpenSource" > ideologues often cop a pretty nasty attitude towards > proprietary vendors > like nVidia, and that favor is, unfortunately, often > returned. > > The pragmatic reality is that we will all be dealing with a > mix of > OpenSource and proprietary software for the foreseeable > future, whether > we like it or not. Given that, it would help if all parties > involved at > least tried to hold out the proverbial olive branch and get > along. That > way, actual problems might get fixed without the various > camps getting > into pissing contests about who actually broke what and who > is > responsible, and true software choice is preserved for > everyone... > > Cheers, > > Chris > > -- > > ==================================================== > "In an age of universal deceit, > telling the truth is a revolutionary act." > > --George Orwell > > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test > -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
