On 09/15/2010 03:35 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > I think we all realize that the timing was exceedingly bad on this. > I think we should try to distill some lessons from this for how we > approach 'invasive' features in the future. If the vore was as close as it was in this case, it begs the question of a proper cost analysis. How much extra burden is now generated in ripping systemd out compared to fixing the known/open bugs? We definitely lose a key component here and the "reward" is seemingly a lot of extra work on the QA process and participants. It's something that should never happen again. We all learn as we go, but given the collected wisdom of our community, it surprises me that we came to this decision this late in the release cycle. Jan -- Jan H Wildeboer | EMEA Open Source Affairs | Office: +49 (0)89 205071-207 Red Hat GmbH | Mobile: +49 (0)174 33 23 249 Technopark II, Haus C | Fax: +49 (0)89 205071-111 Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 | 85630 Grasbrunn | _____________________________________________________________________ Reg. Adresse: Red Hat GmbH, Technopark II, Haus C, Werner-von-Siemens-Ring 11 -15 85630 Grasbrunn, Handelsregister: Amtsgericht Muenchen HRB 153243 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Brendan Lane, Charlie Peters, Michael Cunningham, Charles Cachera _____________________________________________________________________ GPG Key: 3AC3C8AB Fingerprint: 3D1E C4E0 DD67 E16D E47A 9564 A72F 5C39 3AC3 C8AB -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test