2010/9/15 Rahul Sundaram <metherid@xxxxxxxxx>: > On 09/15/2010 11:24 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: >> There is one big difference though. Upstart does work and for a >> "naive" user this detail that /sbin/upstart handles sysvinit job is >> not really visible. In the case of systemd this works "mostly". >> Definitely much better now than when it showed up for the first time >> but if you will scratch little deeper then various niggling >> "imperfections" show up all over. Maybe all this could be fixed in >> time for a release or maybe not. I think that waiting for F15 until >> the whole environment matures enough was a responsible decision. >> >> BTW - I run rawhide and do not plan to switch that back to upstart. > > Since, I am a co-maintainer of systemd and watching bugs flow through, > I think we need a more concrete list of what is missing/needs to be > fixed for this to be acceptable for Fedora 15. I think, off the top of > my head, I would like the following > > * Fedora documentation, especially the longer guides to be updated to > cover systemd extensively Please point me to a similar document written for Upstart. > * system-config-services needs to work with systemd native units Does it work with native Upstart jobs? > * since s-c-services uses chkconfig, chkconfig needs to be hooked up to > systemctl > * shutdown semantics needs to be fixed > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624149) Almost fixed AFAICS > * Direct option for switching default target > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627277) Is there a special tool for Upstart that modify default runlevel in inittab? > * Option to revert settings > (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630174) Any counterpart in the Upstart world? I do not think that this were objective criteria. > > Rahul Regards, Michal -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test