Re: heads-up: upstart reversion coming soon

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 On 09/15/2010 11:24 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote:
> There is one big difference though.  Upstart does work and for a
> "naive" user this detail that /sbin/upstart handles sysvinit job is
> not really visible.  In the case of systemd this works "mostly".
> Definitely much better now than when it showed up for the first time
> but if you will scratch little deeper then various niggling
> "imperfections" show up all over.  Maybe all this could be fixed in
> time for a release or maybe not.  I think that waiting for F15 until
> the whole environment matures enough was a responsible decision.
>
> BTW - I run rawhide and do not plan to switch that back to upstart.

Since, I am a co-maintainer of systemd and watching bugs flow through, 
I think we need a more concrete list of what is missing/needs to be
fixed for this to be acceptable for Fedora 15.  I think, off the top of
my head,  I would like the following

* Fedora documentation, especially the longer guides to be updated to
cover systemd extensively
* system-config-services needs to work with systemd native units
* since s-c-services uses chkconfig, chkconfig needs to be hooked up to
systemctl
* shutdown semantics needs to be fixed
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624149)
* Direct option for switching default target
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627277)
* Option to revert settings
(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630174)

Rahul
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