On 09/15/2010 11:24 AM, Michal Jaegermann wrote: > There is one big difference though. Upstart does work and for a > "naive" user this detail that /sbin/upstart handles sysvinit job is > not really visible. In the case of systemd this works "mostly". > Definitely much better now than when it showed up for the first time > but if you will scratch little deeper then various niggling > "imperfections" show up all over. Maybe all this could be fixed in > time for a release or maybe not. I think that waiting for F15 until > the whole environment matures enough was a responsible decision. > > BTW - I run rawhide and do not plan to switch that back to upstart. Since, I am a co-maintainer of systemd and watching bugs flow through, I think we need a more concrete list of what is missing/needs to be fixed for this to be acceptable for Fedora 15. I think, off the top of my head, I would like the following * Fedora documentation, especially the longer guides to be updated to cover systemd extensively * system-config-services needs to work with systemd native units * since s-c-services uses chkconfig, chkconfig needs to be hooked up to systemctl * shutdown semantics needs to be fixed (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624149) * Direct option for switching default target (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=627277) * Option to revert settings (https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=630174) Rahul -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test