On Sun, 2010-09-12 at 07:44 -0400, Jonathan Kamens wrote: > On 09/12/2010 01:07 AM, David wrote: > > Perhaps you are correct here. It bothers me when I see the Fedora devs > > work so hard to produce a product and then someone steps in and attacks > > it. > Pointing out flaws in a product is not "attacking" it. This is indeed the point here. I perhaps might say that it's best to just stick to 'I am experiencing these bugs and wondered if anyone else is seeing them' rather than pontificating about whether the release is ready; we have a validation process to test that, and the best way to make sure a release is ready is to take part in the validation process (which in a way you are by testing F14 and filing reports!) and suggest ways in which the process can be improved. But certainly by testing F14, finding bugs, and posting about them, you are doing something entirely constructive and indeed exactly what Fedora QA is supposed to be doing, and thanks very much for doing that :) It will certainly help us to improve the quality of the release. I will send a reply to the initial mail to discuss the bugs you highlighted. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test