On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 16:23:12 -0500, John Morris <jmorris@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 00:14 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 23:18:00 -0500, > > John Morris <jmorris@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > And of course Network-Manager isn't optional anymore. Oh no, you can't > > > > You can still run the network service. You use chkconfig to turn it on. > > If you don't need wireless, turning off NetworkManager doesn't seem to > > be a problem, but it's also possible to run both at the same time. > > No it isn't. If NM isn't managing a connection to the Internet then > Firefox (fixable), Evolution, Empathy and almost certainly other apps go > into offline mode. You can still run a server without NetworkManager > but a desktop install now requires that it be installed and managing > your connection. Been there, tried that and have the t-shirt. That is not the behavior I see. I run desktops without NetworkManager running (but installed) and there is no problem with firefox. (I don't use evolution or empathy.) -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test