On Thu, Sep 09, 2010 at 04:23:12PM -0500, John Morris wrote: > On Thu, 2010-09-09 at 00:14 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 08, 2010 at 23:18:00 -0500, > > John Morris <jmorris@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > And of course Network-Manager isn't optional anymore. Oh no, you can't > > > > You can still run the network service. You use chkconfig to turn it on. > > If you don't need wireless, turning off NetworkManager doesn't seem to > > be a problem, but it's also possible to run both at the same time. > > No it isn't. If NM isn't managing a connection to the Internet then > Firefox (fixable), Evolution, Empathy and almost certainly other apps go > into offline mode. Really? I do not know about Evolution or Empathy and surely not about "almost certainly other app" but this is from two different F13 installations: # chkconfig --list NetworkManager NetworkManager 0:off 1:off 2:off 3:off 4:off 5:off 6:off Both are running desktop and firefox did not require any fixes not to go into offline mode as long as network was active. Nor I have seen so far any other problems. It may help if you will make desired network interfaces explicitely not NM controlled as by default they are. Michal -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
