On 12/01/2009 11:16 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > Jesse Keating said the following on 11/29/2009 10:52 PM Pacific Time: >> On Sun, 2009-11-29 at 15:30 -0800, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote: >>> Is it time for the images directory to reappear? >>> In the past many problems with updated rawhides >>> have been solved by doing a fresh install from >>> boot.iso or pxeboot. >>> >> >> From now on, Rawhide will not have install images. Rawhide is a never >> stopping never freezing repository of packages. To get to rawhide >> you'll need to start with say F12 and either point to the rawhide repo >> during install, or yum update to it post install. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/No_Frozen_Rawhide_Proposal >> >> > > The part about not making install images all the time is listed as a > "discussion point", part of the official proposal: > 'Do we always make install images for rawhide, or only make images for > pending release tree?' > > Big picture it seems like we've suddenly taken away access to a huge > amount of potential nightly and periodic installer testing. Is this > addressed somewhere in the proposal that I missed? I'm not sure how you figure we've taken away access - we've made it so an individual tester, working alone, has to do a compose themself, which is admittedly a higher barrier to entry. But the side effect is that people aren't testing trees we don't expect to work, and we've done that without adding a serious communication overhead ("hey guys, will the tree work today?") > Are there particular reason for not creating the images any more that > might help everyone understand more why this is a good idea? Usually it's a waste of time and energy, especially early in the rawhide cycle where we (the the anaconda team) are doing heavy development. > Can you add something to the proposal explaining when, how often, and > where install images will be created? Maybe we ought to have sortof a fire-drill test day sometime soon where we spin an anaconda we think will work and do some smoke-test composes and installs, and then do a compose for the test day just to get in the habit of the new process. -- Peter Old MacDonald had an agricultural real-estate tax abatement. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list
