I prefer https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_Join over https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Draft/QA/join simply because it's broken up into easier-to-read sections. If you are going to put it live, I would create the pages that are currently red links, at the very least to say something like "Page under construction; please see [[Testing]] temporarily for information on this topic." Or just chop up that page and use the pieces as a rough draft of the page you intend to make. Otherwise, we will be making some content hard to find in the name of making things easier to find. For the "Test Cases" link, current content is split between [[:Category:Test Plans]] (linked from the "Activities" section on the front page draft) and [[:Category:Test Cases]]. On the RHCT issue, I would yank that statement entirely. I agree that you don't need RHCT-level skills to test Rawhide, you just need to be able to follow instructions and be willing to host a system that is broken and needs to be wiped. Anyone who can install Rawhide in the first place can "fix" a broken Rawhide system simply by formatting the hard drive and doing a fresh install of a more stable release. If the instructions for installing Rawhide, updating it, testing it, and reporting bugs are too hard for people to follow, then it is useful to learn that those instructions need improvement. It is true that the more you know about system administration, the easier it will be for you to diagnose problems yourself and to fix small problems without reinstalling the entire system. But we seem to have plenty of testers right now who are unfamiliar with yum's quirks or the particular subsystem they are having a problem with, and they are making excellent contributions. The wiki should be and is able to teach the basics to anyone willing to learn. I don't think we should scare volunteers away by mentioning a particular level of certification which they don't have. As for the main page, If I had to pick one, both are great, but https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Adamwill/Draft_QA looks slightly friendlier than: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/Draft/QA I added a "Trac" link to User:Adamwill/Draft QA, since otherwise this link would be lost. Feel free to move or improve it. -B. -- fedora-test-list mailing list fedora-test-list@xxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/fedora-test-list