Andrew Farris wrote:
Robert P. J. Day wrote:
not to sound rude, but what you'd rather see is not really germane to
the discussion. what *is* germane -- as i've already suggested -- is
that i originally joined this ML because i wanted to participate in
the discussion regarding fedora test *releases*. OTOH, i have little
interest in staying on top of the constant stream of fedora test
*updates*, but i'm being force-fed that information anyway. so what's
the problem with a new ML with that particular mandate?
to make sure those on the test discussion list were aware of the
test updates that are being pushed out...
except that there are some of us who aren't interested in that
information.
So your point is that you feel the community really needs to have list setup
such as below?
fedora-test-updates-list
More-or-less daily package releases and consequential discussion.
fedora-test-release-list
Fedora betas, maybe Rawhide as a whole as it would be increasingly
appropriate as a new Fedora's birth approaches.
fedora-devel-list
Hacking on packages for Fedora and any affiliates.
Sounds good to me.
all of which relate to testing and development issues for packages not yet
released...
Just having the announcements split off to another list hardly suits your needs
either given your feelings above and not wanting to know anything about updates
and discussion of them.
Speaking of which, I wonder whether the newsletter (which I value) could
have its own list too?
Email filtering? All update announcements originate from
Until recently I was pulling (much to my astonishment) 3 Gbytes/month.
That's through a modem.
Once it's arrived, it's too late.
updates@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, you could simply not see any of them with 2minutes of
your time. Granted if the *majority* of people on the list fall into your
category its wasted bandwidth to have all the announcements going out to them
all, but thats not necessarily the case. I'm not saying your ideas are invalid,
just playing devil's advocate about even *MORE* email lists... everyone's needs
and interest in the information stream is going to be different.
I think more lists doesn't actually mean much in terms of administrative
cost, and it falls on the few anyway whereas the burden of dealing with
the relatively large volume falls on many.
Splintering discussions about updates away from next release testing will tend
to also reduce cross-talk on related problems. Just my 2c, thats a bad thing.
People involved in all two or three areas are likely to be on all two or
three. If there's something relevant to two lists, they'll make the
connexion and (maybe) cc the other. Yes, I hate it when someone takes a
discussion from one list to another, but that's not exactly what I'm
talking about here.
Those of us who don't want the daily updates don't read them. Rather
than pay my ISP to receive them so I can discard them, I'd rather not
receive them.
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John
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