On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 06:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > Matthias Clasen wrote: > >> The prime spin still has Firefox, Evolution and three openoffice.org > >> applications which makes sense for RHEL but not for Fedora. I would > >> prefer something more home user oriented for Fedora. > > > > Why on earth do you think firefox, evolution and OOo don't make sense > > for Fedora users ? The only reason OOo is not on the livecd is space. > > I didn't say it does not make sense. Only that there are other > applications more frequently compared to OO.o presentation or > spreadsheet programs. You can look at mugshot stats at > http://mugshot.org/applications for some idea. > > Firefox, Evolution, Openoffice.org writer, Gaim and Gnome terminal or > Rhythmbox would be more appropriate IMO. Um, I may be missing something, Rahul, but your quote above says *verbatim* that those applications "make sense for RHEL but not for Fedora." And remember that the application usage you reference comes from Mugshot, and not from the general base of all Fedora users, so it's statistically very questionable as a basis for making decisions about which applications to {in,ex}clude. Besides, isn't the Live CD spin the answer to this issue? I'm further confused that you go on to contradict your earlier statement about including Firefox and Evolution. As far as OO.o goes, once you've got oo.o-core in a spin, it makes absolutely no sense to leave out -calc, -draw, and -impress. As the husband of a living, breathing home user, I can tell you those applications get frequent use. Since my spouse doesn't use Mugshot, you'll never see her stats. If it weren't for the inevitable outcry from the more paranoid user/developer contingent, I'd say it might be useful to break out the application reporting component of Mugshot, anonymize it, and give users the ability to turn only that bit on: "Fedora features an automatic component that gives feedback to developers about how much you use various software packages on your system. Fedora developers use this feedback to figure out how best to improve the software and promote a better user experience for you. This data reporting is completely anonymous and does not include any of your personal information. Would you like to help by contributing your statistical usage information?" -- Paul W. Frields, RHCE http://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 Fedora Project: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PaulWFrields irc.freenode.net: stickster @ #fedora-docs, #fedora-devel, #fredlug
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