Re: Fedora 7 Test 4 GNOME based i386 Live CD report

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On Sun, 2007-04-29 at 06:39 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> Matthias Clasen wrote:
> >> The prime spin still has Firefox, Evolution and three openoffice.org 
> >> applications which makes sense for RHEL but not for Fedora. I would 
> >> prefer something more home user oriented for Fedora.
> > 
> > Why on earth do you think firefox, evolution and OOo don't make sense
> > for Fedora users ? The only reason OOo is not on the livecd is space.
> 
> I didn't say it does not make sense. Only that there are other 
> applications more frequently compared to OO.o presentation or 
> spreadsheet programs. You can look at mugshot stats at 
> http://mugshot.org/applications for some idea.
> 
> Firefox, Evolution, Openoffice.org writer, Gaim and Gnome terminal or 
> Rhythmbox would be more appropriate IMO.

Um, I may be missing something, Rahul, but your quote above says
*verbatim* that those applications "make sense for RHEL but not for
Fedora."  And remember that the application usage you reference comes
from Mugshot, and not from the general base of all Fedora users, so it's
statistically very questionable as a basis for making decisions about
which applications to {in,ex}clude.  Besides, isn't the Live CD spin the
answer to this issue?

I'm further confused that you go on to contradict your earlier statement
about including Firefox and Evolution.  As far as OO.o goes, once you've
got oo.o-core in a spin, it makes absolutely no sense to leave out
-calc, -draw, and -impress.  As the husband of a living, breathing home
user, I can tell you those applications get frequent use.  Since my
spouse doesn't use Mugshot, you'll never see her stats.

If it weren't for the inevitable outcry from the more paranoid
user/developer contingent, I'd say it might be useful to break out the
application reporting component of Mugshot, anonymize it, and give users
the ability to turn only that bit on:

"Fedora features an automatic component that gives feedback to
developers about how much you use various software packages on your
system.  Fedora developers use this feedback to figure out how best to
improve the software and promote a better user experience for you.  This
data reporting is completely anonymous and does not include any of your
personal information.  Would you like to help by contributing your
statistical usage information?"

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