I'd like to see a firewall tool added to FC4. I use FWBuilder. I know that iptables can be set manually, but I use FWBuilder on every machine we have. It is a pain to download and install it on every machine. I think it is a very handy application, for those of us not working with firewalls every day. The other thing I add to every machine is synaptic, but we have already had that discussion. Another app that a lot of technical people are looking for is CAD. I've been using qcad and find the latest release (2.0.4+) to be a very good replacement for AutoCAD, although it doesn't do 3D and some of the advanced stuff. If the qcad developers had just a bit more help, they would have a killer app on their hands in technical circles. -- Kim Lux (Mr.) Diesel Research Inc