Thanks for your reply, Alan, and your tireless effort with Linux. What did you mean by: > And that below is a bug > > > Nov 11 10:28:49 localhost > kernel: Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer > > dereference at virtual address 00000008 > > which shouldnt have occurred but was triggered by what appears to be broken > hardware How should I proceed ? Do you want me to log this in bugzilla ? Under what ? kernel ? grip ? cdrom ? scsi-ide ? BTW: I can crash my machine at will with grip. -- Kim Lux (Mr.) Diesel Research Inc