Re: Introducing Steam + video game testing criteria

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 2:28 PM Adam Williamson
<adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Thu, 2023-04-20 at 08:20 -0400, Neal Gompa wrote:
> > Hey all,
> >
> > I would like for us to have some testing criteria around gaming and
> > Steam so that we can ensure we're offering a working gaming experience
> > in Fedora Linux releases. This is motivated by the issue we had in the
> > F37 cycle where glibc broke popular multiplayer games[1]. I was
> > reminded of this when I launched Steam today on F38 and zenity
> > crashed[2].
> >
> > I would like to propose the following criterion for Steam itself as a
> > Beta Blocker bug:
> > "Steam MUST be able to be installed and have its basic functionality
> > work with no visible errors. Basic functionality for Steam includes:
> > logging into a Steam account and installing a Windows/Proton game and
> > a Linux/SteamOS native game."
> >
> > For gaming itself, I would like to propose the following criterion as
> > a Final Blocker bug:
> > "Steam games identified as Deck Verified by (see
> > MUST
> > launch and let the user play the game. This criterion is not intended
> > to judge performance, merely accessibility. At least one
> > Windows/Proton game and one Linux/SteamOS native game MUST be tested
> > in this manner."
> >
> > Now, the tricky issue here is how to wordsmith the check for
> > anti-cheat systems. I don't want to specifically call out just EAC,
> > but I also don't know of a good mix of games with different
> > anti-cheats. The important thing is to catch regressions and see if
> > it's something we can resolve. In the EAC case from F37, it was easy
> > for us to deal with, but if it's genuinely broken in a way we can't
> > deal with it on the Fedora side, I don't know what we're supposed to
> > do, so I'm wary of doing some kind of blocker criterion for that.
> >
> > I'd also like this to be imposed on both release-blocking desktops:
> > GNOME and KDE Plasma.
> >
> > Any ideas welcome and appreciated!
> I'm against this. We have never blocked the OS on proprietary third-
> party applications. I don't think it's a path we want to go down.
> I'm in favour of testing common third-party stuff before release and
> fixing it if we can, but we have always said we will not block Fedora
> on this, and I don't think we should change that.
> (I did actually test Steam, but I used the flatpak version, not RPM...)
> I'm fixing the zenity bug, BTW.

Is there a way we can add regular testing for it without making it a
blocker then?

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