On Tue, 2022-03-15 at 08:11 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 5:33 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > FESCo has a "make this a blocker" button... I kind of feel an itch for a > > generalized "sometimes stuff comes up" lever that goes the _other_ > > direction, rather than a very specific carve-out. > > Like Adam, I fear we'd be too tempted to use it as a "YOLO, ship it!" > button. It wouldn't happen right away, but slowly, we'd become more > comfortable with waiving more things. I think there are more likely to > be cases where we'd want to block on things (e.g. "wow, this bug will > be really embarrassing when reviewers find it, but it doesn't actually > violate any criteria") arbitrarily than cases where we'd wave. In the > "this should be a blocker, actually" case, we can lean on FESCo to use > their blocker power to apply it, so I don't think Council needs an > explicit authority there. We already have exceptions to allow some > blockers to be waived, and I think most of the ones we'd want to waive > could be handled under those. > > Also, as a group we're pretty good at word lawyering when we set our > minds to it, so we can find ways to say "this bug does not violate a > very specific interpretation of the criteria" if it comes down to it. > :-) And to expand on this a bit - I'd say that Council *does* have the power already, if it comes down to it, to say "we have decided that the release criteria should say XXX. Make it so." And I actually would prefer Council do *that* if it comes to it, than just be able to say "whatever the release criteria say, bug YYY is not a blocker". It seems somehow more transparent and in line with the goal of making consistent decisions to me. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha https://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
