Re: Proposal to modify: Working Sound Beta Release Criterion

[Jan K <copper_fin@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

It would be nice to have working sound on virtual machines as well. If you could add instructions or note(s) whether this would be possible at this stage it would be appreciated.

If it should work, it could be tested as well.

(There are some challenges even with current sound systems, so it is not criteria, more like a suggestion for a test case).

Jan Kuparinen

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From: Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 7:52 PM
To: For testing and quality assurance of Fedora releases <test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Proposal to modify: Working Sound Beta Release Criterion

 

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 1:59 PM Kamil Paral <kparal@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 2:20 PM Lukas Ruzicka <lruzicka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hello friends of Fedora,

I have been thinking about a proposal to modify the %subj.

It's good to link to the existing version, so that people can compare:

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_34_Beta_Release_Criteria#Working_sound

 

I have tried several version and I did not like any, so finally I am proposing this text:

Working sound

The installed system must be able to play back and record audio.

This probably needs something like "(if relevant hardware is present)" appended to it (or in a footnote). And we should keep the existing "System-specific bugs" footnote from the current criterion.

I believe the proposed change is good for two main reasons:

1. I don't see a reason to limit the criterion to just gstreamer-based applications, as it currently is.

2. Audio recording has grown in importance immensely in the last year due to teleconferencing and we should cover it in criteria.

So I'm fine with the proposal.

There's a question whether this should stay in Beta or be moved to Final, since it covers more use cases in the new version. Personally I think it's OK to keep this in Beta, because, quoting from the footnote, "It is meant to cover bugs which completely prevent sound playback from working in any hardware configuration". Less clear-cut cases can be decided as Final during blocker review, and we also still have the Default application functionality [1] for Final, which furthermore covers some important apps by itself.

One additional thought, I would also be OK with keeping "sound output must work" criterion for Beta, and "sound recording must work" criterion for Final. That also seems reasonable.

Is there no-one else who has any opinion on all this? Where is everybody? 🔭

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