Re: Rawhide F34 observation

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On Thu, 2021-01-14 at 12:18 -0500, pmkellly@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> On 1/14/21 03:22, Harold Dost wrote:
> > Essentially 4.0 === 40 and 40 is the new major version.
> > https://9to5linux.com/the-next-major-gnome-release-will-be-gnome-40-coming-march-2021
> > 
> > On Thu 14 Jan 2021 at 00:25, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 13:24 -0500, pmkellly@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > On 1/13/21 12:15, Matthew Miller wrote:
> > > > > On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 09:51:50AM -0500, pmkellly@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > > > > > While testing Rawhide F34 I have observed that the gnome-tweaks
> > > > > > application is missing the Extensions, Top Bar, and Workspaces
> > > > > > setting windows. Is this a bug of omission or are these settings
> > > > > > being removed or added to GCC? I don't see them in GCC.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I expect that this is related to the upcoming GNOME redesign which
> > > affects these
> > > > > things.
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Wow, That is a big move especially since Gnome 4.0 seems to be currently
> > > > set to release in March when F34 is set to release in April. I know we
> > > > always seem to get the latest Gnome at the last minute, but this seems
> > > > to be a much bigger change than usual. On the surface this seems like a
> > > > potential for late F34 or other issues. I hope they have a fallback
> > > > planned. It seems a bit early for them to be starting to take things out
> > > > that people use. Rawhide F34 still shows Gnome as 3.38.2 (the same as
> > > > F33). Yes I know gnome-tweaks is a separate package, in fact a few years
> > > > back I suggested that it would be nice if GCC and gnome-tweeks were
> > > > combined into a single tool, but this is an important setting tool and
> > > > it's being changed well before Gnome 4 is a sure thing. We don't even
> > > > know that such an integration of these tools is planned for Gnome 4. I
> > > > hope someone has their arms around this.
> > > 
> > > Saying it's "related" doesn't mean they're gone forever. It may just be
> > > that they need reworking for the new GNOME design, and have been taken
> > > out so they don't do anything weird or surprise people by not working.
> > > I'm not sure, honestly, but asking on desktop@ would probably be
> > > better.
> > > 
> 
> Wow! a Whole order of magnitude increase (40 instead of 4.0). I expect I 
> will be able to talk with my PC and it will talk back when using the 
> command line :)
> 
> Seriously though, will we start seeing elements of G40 before we get to 
> Branched or Beta?

Rawhide already has the first alpha of Mutter 40. It doesn't have most
of the changes in it, though. I think there are new releases planned
soon and those should land in Rawhide.
-- 
Adam Williamson
Fedora QA
IRC: adamw | Twitter: adamw_ha
https://www.happyassassin.net


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