On Tue, 2020-04-07 at 10:22 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 7, 2020 at 7:55 AM Lukas Ruzicka <lruzicka@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yes, we are aware that suspend is hardware dependent and we might end up blocking on a particular set of hardware once we are able to identify such a set. Any ideas are welcome. > > I think a "squishy" approach here might be the best option. So we > don't care which hardware specifically, but the general impact. Is it > 1% of hardware? We probably don't want to block on it. Is it 10% of > hardware? That might be more compelling. Is it 100% of hardware? Yeah, > this is a blocker. Obviously we can't use specific numbers, but > focusing on the scale of the impact the idea. This is actually already the policy: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Blocker_Bug_FAQ#What_about_hardware_and_local_configuration_dependent_issues.3F I think we do already sometimes call that out specifically in footnotes for criteria which are very strongly hardware-related. I think we'd definitely want to do that in this case: both linking to that note, and having a "specific" note for this criterion which would cover the issues we're debating right now. I would perhaps want to say that we'll bias the evaluation towards laptops (i.e. we'd be more likely to take suspend issues that affect laptops as release blocking) as it's a feature that's more critical on laptops than on desktops...I suspend my desktop a lot, but it's not *critical*, if the feature's broken I either leave it running or deal with the inconvenience of shutting it down and powering it back on, but that's not really practical for a laptop. > Do we want to scope it specifically to desktop-oriented deliverables? > Suspending Workstation or the KDE Spin is probably a common use case. > Suspending Server less so. I don't expect there would be cases where > that would actually matter, since they should share the important > parts in common, but if nothing else, it reduces the number of tests > that need to be done. This seems reasonable, yeah. I'd also suggest it needs to be an *installed system* criterion - I don't think we want to require suspend to work in the live environment. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
