On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:43 AM Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > > are such core and basic issues that they are non-questionable and > > non-waivable (except by FESCo, which is itself part of the same policy and > > marked to have godly powers). If you read the list of automatic blockers > > [3], those are broken composes, dead-on-arrival images, incorrect > > checksums, broken dependencies, and *oversize images*. I don't think anyone > > but FESCo should be able to say "go" in that case, regardless of when the > > problem was reported (even minutes before the final meeting). I'd really > > like automatic to mean automatic, without any consideration. > > FWIW, I respectfully disagree with this. The key factor for whether > something goes on the 'automatic' blockers list is *whether it could > possibly be ambiguous*, not how waivable it is. While I agree that automatic blockers are more about their unambiguous nature, it is also unambiguous that image size is presently a beta requirement. That it can be waived, and also that it was overwhelmingly waived, very strongly suggests a) it should not be a beta requirement; b) the present maximum size is incorrect and needs updating; c) there's some kind of unwritten fudge factor, maybe 5% oversize for beta is OK but 100% wouldn't be. Essentially, no one found it intuitively compelling or desirable to actually block release, even though it's unquestionably a blocker. Since the bug is not blocking the release tells us it is in fact not a release blocking bug. It's a blocker in name only, in practice it's not. It's a contradiction, and thus hilarious. Anyway, the Workstation working group will revisit the maximum size issue on Monday, and perhaps there won't be a contradiction on release day. :D https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/104 -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
