Re: system-config-date?

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On 08/24/2018 11:44 AM, Jon Ingason wrote:
Den 2018-08-24 kl. 16:46, skrev Ed Greshko:
On 08/24/18 22:32, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

On 08/24/2018 10:16 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 08/24/18 21:44, Gerald Henriksen wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 22:40:13 +0800, you wrote:

Anyway, were I to land in Helsinki today I would google "helsinki timezone"
learn it
is currently "summer time" there and it is GMT+3.  So, I would do "timedatectl
set-timezone Etc/GMT-3".  I could not find a way to do that in the KDE GUI.  Yet it
does show up in the GUI after I set it in that manner.
Easiest way is right-click on the time in the task bar, Ajust Date and
Time, Time zones, and type in Helsinki.  Benefit of this method is
essentaily the same process works on Windows or macOS so it is a
consistent method instead of hunting through system settings.
That is one way.  But it seemed to me that the OP was also concerned about landing in
a city that didn't exist in the list and not knowing what city in the
list was close to where he happens to be.

My comment was to highlight that there seems to be no way in the KDE GUI to specify a
GMT offset.

Anyway, as the old saying goes, there is more ways than one to skin a
cat...especially in linux.  Considering my background and length of service I
gravitate
towards command lines than GUI if at all possible.
And I earlier posted the tzupdate process that uses geolocation from your IP
address to set your timezone:

pip install -U tzupdate

But often this does not work with the IETF network as every meeting we have the
same address block in a different country, and someone is not making the geoloc
update.  The NOC tries to get this done during setup, but they don't always get the
cooperation from the host provider that they need.  Thus we were in Singapore with
the geoloc at first saying we were still in Prague.  It was fixed by Tuesday of the
meeting (or there abouts).

I wonder how this would work with the airlines gogo wifi?  :)
Of course it won't work very well.  If you're flying Delta your gateway address
exposed to the world (assuming IPv4) would probably put you in Atlanta no matter
where your plane is.

All of this is why I just ask the hotel clerk:  What time is it?    OK, I also ask:
Where am I?

This not so difficult as you might think.

Click on clock with right button and choose "Properties". Then get a
window where the timezone is empty. All you need to do is to start with
a capital letter. If you are for instance in Europe all you need know is
in which country you are and know the capital of that country. I you are
in Finland you probably known that Helsinki is capital of Finland. You
type "Europe" and then you get list of capitals in Europe. There are
some exceptions so you can see all timezone in "/usr/share/zoneinfo".

I have tested this on vm with Xfce desktop and it works.


You have to know the format of the zoneinfo directory for this to work.  Like start with Am to get American cities.  Not start with H for Helsinki; all you get is Hongkong and HST.

And you have to know a city in the list near where you are.  Many times my city is not included.  Well we 'know' that San Diego and San Francisco are in the same zone as Los_Angeles.  But this is all stuff you have to figure out for yourself when the list comes up. s-c-d is very good at showing you a city near where you are looking for...

Mostly it works.  There have been a few times I have been challenged and had to look at my phone to confirm the timezone.  Just a few. ;)

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