On Mon, 2017-04-17 at 09:48 +0100, Russel Winder wrote: > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 23:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 08:33 -0700, stan wrote: > > > On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 05:34:40 +0100 > > > Russel Winder <russel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > > I had thought I had removed NetworkManager from my workstation in > > > > favour of using systemd-networkd. However it seems in the last > > > > Rawhide > > > > update, NetworkManager has reinstalled itself and has enforced > > > > starting. I tried removing it but it seems GNOME Shell depends on > > > > it's > > > > presence. Isn't this a dependency too far? > > > > > > GNOME shell is probably depending on NetworkManager for its updates > > > handling, so it is integrated in. networkd probably isn't > > > supported > > > for that functionality. You can check this by leaving > > > NetworkManager > > > installed, and masking it in systemd, so that it can't be started > > > by > > > the GNOME update manager (PackageKit?). Then start networkd, and > > > let it take over network functionality. After a while of running, > > > look > > > in the logs, journalctl -r, to see if there are any complaints > > > about an > > > inability to check for updates. It might take a while. > > I removed PackageKit a long time ago – I cannot afford automatic update > for a number of reasons. No update has ever reinstalled it. I use > NetworkManager on the laptops because of the dynamic Internet > connection. The workstation and server though are fixed wired > connection so I thought I'd try systemd-networkd (removing > Networkmanager) and it was working fine – until NetworkManager > reinstalled for some reason. > > > I haven't checked this, but I can't think of any reason the GNOME > > update system would specifically require NetworkManager. > > > > Russel, can you post exactly what output you get from 'dnf remove > > NetworkManager'? Thanks. > > > [root@anglides etc]# dnf remove NetworkManager > Dependencies resolved. > ================================================================================ > Package Arch Version Repository > Size > ================================================================================ > Removing: > NetworkManager x86_64 1:1.8.0-0.2.rc2.fc27 @rawhide 5.2 M > NetworkManager-wifi x86_64 1:1.8.0-0.2.rc2.fc27 @rawhide 161 k > control-center x86_64 1:3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 18 M > gdm x86_64 1:3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 2.1 M > gnome-initial-setup x86_64 3.24.0-1.fc27 @rawhide 2.5 M > gnome-shell x86_64 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 9.9 M > gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 9.5 k > gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 30 k > gnome-shell-extension-common noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 565 k > gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance > noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 4.9 k > gnome-shell-extension-openweather noarch 1-0.28.20170307git48ee4af.fc27 > @rawhide 500 k > gnome-shell-extension-places-menu noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 23 k > gnome-shell-extension-user-theme noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 7.0 k > gnome-shell-extension-window-list noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 57 k > gnome-tweak-tool noarch 3.24.0-1.fc27 @rawhide 1.0 M > notify-python x86_64 0.1.1-32.fc26 @System 69 k > pulseaudio-gdm-hooks x86_64 10.0-4.fc26 @rawhide 354 > Removing unused dependencies: > switcheroo-control x86_64 1.1-2.fc26 @rawhide 52 k > > Transaction Summary > ================================================================================ > Remove 18 Packages Aha: http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/rpms/control-center.git/commit/?id=fc2b7c4ee0d62cf6ceb445356a788ab5fe90fb6a control-center had a dependency added on NetworkManager-wifi. That's likely the issue here (the other things being removed probably depend on control-center). Bastien, can you solve this problem some other way that doesn't involve GNOME getting a hard dependency on NetworkManager? -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
