On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 23:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Sun, 2017-04-16 at 08:33 -0700, stan wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 05:34:40 +0100 > > Russel Winder <russel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I had thought I had removed NetworkManager from my workstation in > > > favour of using systemd-networkd. However it seems in the last > > > Rawhide > > > update, NetworkManager has reinstalled itself and has enforced > > > starting. I tried removing it but it seems GNOME Shell depends on > > > it's > > > presence. Isn't this a dependency too far? > > > > GNOME shell is probably depending on NetworkManager for its updates > > handling, so it is integrated in. networkd probably isn't > > supported > > for that functionality. You can check this by leaving > > NetworkManager > > installed, and masking it in systemd, so that it can't be started > > by > > the GNOME update manager (PackageKit?). Then start networkd, and > > let it take over network functionality. After a while of running, > > look > > in the logs, journalctl -r, to see if there are any complaints > > about an > > inability to check for updates. It might take a while. I removed PackageKit a long time ago – I cannot afford automatic update for a number of reasons. No update has ever reinstalled it. I use NetworkManager on the laptops because of the dynamic Internet connection. The workstation and server though are fixed wired connection so I thought I'd try systemd-networkd (removing Networkmanager) and it was working fine – until NetworkManager reinstalled for some reason. > I haven't checked this, but I can't think of any reason the GNOME > update system would specifically require NetworkManager. > > Russel, can you post exactly what output you get from 'dnf remove > NetworkManager'? Thanks. [root@anglides etc]# dnf remove NetworkManager Dependencies resolved. ================================================================================ Package Arch Version Repository Size ================================================================================ Removing: NetworkManager x86_64 1:1.8.0-0.2.rc2.fc27 @rawhide 5.2 M NetworkManager-wifi x86_64 1:1.8.0-0.2.rc2.fc27 @rawhide 161 k control-center x86_64 1:3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 18 M gdm x86_64 1:3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 2.1 M gnome-initial-setup x86_64 3.24.0-1.fc27 @rawhide 2.5 M gnome-shell x86_64 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 9.9 M gnome-shell-extension-alternate-tab noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 9.5 k gnome-shell-extension-apps-menu noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 30 k gnome-shell-extension-common noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 565 k gnome-shell-extension-launch-new-instance noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 4.9 k gnome-shell-extension-openweather noarch 1-0.28.20170307git48ee4af.fc27 @rawhide 500 k gnome-shell-extension-places-menu noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 23 k gnome-shell-extension-user-theme noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 7.0 k gnome-shell-extension-window-list noarch 3.24.1-1.fc27 @rawhide 57 k gnome-tweak-tool noarch 3.24.0-1.fc27 @rawhide 1.0 M notify-python x86_64 0.1.1-32.fc26 @System 69 k pulseaudio-gdm-hooks x86_64 10.0-4.fc26 @rawhide 354 Removing unused dependencies: switcheroo-control x86_64 1.1-2.fc26 @rawhide 52 k Transaction Summary ================================================================================ Remove 18 Packages Freed space: 40 M Is this ok [y/N]: Operation aborted. […] -- Russel. ============================================================================= Dr Russel Winder t: +44 20 7585 2200 voip: sip:russel.winder@xxxxxxxxx 41 Buckmaster Road m: +44 7770 465 077 xmpp: russel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx London SW11 1EN, UK w: www.russel.org.uk skype: russel_winder
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