On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 05:34:40 +0100 Russel Winder <russel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I had thought I had removed NetworkManager from my workstation in > favour of using systemd-networkd. However it seems in the last Rawhide > update, NetworkManager has reinstalled itself and has enforced > starting. I tried removing it but it seems GNOME Shell depends on it's > presence. Isn't this a dependency too far? GNOME shell is probably depending on NetworkManager for its updates handling, so it is integrated in. networkd probably isn't supported for that functionality. You can check this by leaving NetworkManager installed, and masking it in systemd, so that it can't be started by the GNOME update manager (PackageKit?). Then start networkd, and let it take over network functionality. After a while of running, look in the logs, journalctl -r, to see if there are any complaints about an inability to check for updates. It might take a while. I am unfamiliar with this, but I think your choices are 1. remain with GNOME, use networkd, disable PackageKit, and handle updates manually 2. remain with GNOME and use NetworkManager, let GNOME handle updates 3. switch to another desktop, use networkd, and handle updates manually After Easter, maybe someone more knowledgeable will give you a better answer. _______________________________________________ test mailing list -- test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to test-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx