Re: Moan about dnf on Rawhide

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On 02/20/2017 05:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Mon, 2017-02-20 at 16:38 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
On 02/20/2017 03:20 AM, Adam Williamson wrote:
On Sun, 2017-02-19 at 09:07 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
So as there was a successful Rawhide compose today,
what's there now (allowing for mirror sync) has changed since yesterday
and the updated dnf is there.

Sorry, I was wrong about this, I misread my emails a bit. There's still
not been a successful compose since 20170215. Hopefully we get one
soon.

In other words, since Feb 15, due to rawhide not having been updated you
have strangled any local package building and testing rawhide.

To me this qualifies as your "That's how things work" being
fundamentally flawed and broken for no-good, absurd reasons.

I don't know why you're talking about 'me', since I've not got anything
to do with release engineering.

Then extend my sentences to releng. Fact is YOU (who ever feels addressed) are strangling Fedora and render testing and development into a joke.

Since I don't work for release engineering I don't know all the details
about why the process works this way, I clearly can't have passed those
reasons on to you, so your assertion that the reasons are 'no-good
[and] absurd' is itself absurd.

Quite simple: Making "a consistent release" a prerequisite to rawhide is utter non-sense. Rawhide is not a release. The person, who added this prerequisite, should leave Fedora, IMNSHO. Rawhide serves testing purposes and by-definition is permanently broken.


Or more pragmatically put: in current (Feb 15) release:
- The kernel is broken for me (doesn't boot)
- glibc is broken for me (It segfaults).
- dnf is a corrupt and inconsistent train-wreck.
...

Since then, probably several 100s of supposed to-be-bugfixes where built, but YOU are keeping them behind closed doors.

Ralf

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