On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:52 AM, Adam Williamson <adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Whatever state Manual Partitioning UI is in at the time I click >> Done, so long as it accepts Done, it should be able to complete an >> installation per that implicit visual contract for an installation. >> It's not at all "gotta do everything" unless the UI claims it can do >> everything, in which case then yes it'd have to actually be able to >> do everything. >> >> This criterion is a UI delimiter, not a functionality mandate. > > It amounts to the same thing, because we can't practically just rip > out all the functionality. I wasn't recommending ripping out all functionality. I was only using that as example that neither criterion versions would be violated in such a case, therefore obviously the criterion aren't mandating any specific functionality other than what the installer visually promises. This really should be uncontroversial. Plumber says he can install a faucet into a granite counter top. Great! They should be able to do exactly that, not f up the faucet or the granite counter top or cause a flood, right? Pretty straightforward. If they can't do it, they shouldn't claim they can. > Fundamentally, we're painted into a corner > where the installer has to contain more functionality than we can > absolutely guarantee will work in all circumstances. Is that ideal? > No. But we can't pretend it isn't true. If there's no accountability for its own promises, then I'm not imagining any available criterion. > There are going to be cases where we get to go/no-go, find there's an > obscure bug in custom part, and want to ship anyway. As long as that's > the case, this criterion as written is just not the right thing and > instead of assisting us in deciding if releases are done (the actual > point of the criteria), it's getting in our way. Right, fine, so just delete it. I have no alternative wordsmithing to offer on this, because it's not about that. This isn't a creative writing assignment. -- Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test