On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 11:24 -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote: > Greetings testers! > > While looking into the affects of the yum/dnf migration I noticed > some cleanup > opportunities with the release criteria and thought I'd email the > list before > making any changes. > > Beta > ==== > > Package set selection > > Should we update this to say "when using any network install > image..." > instead of "when using the generic?" I'd add a note with something > like, > "[Any?] This means any of the productized network installation > media and > the base network installation image." No. I only just wrote this, and it's specifically this way for a reason. We're getting the generic netinst back for F22, and we only want to 'officially support' package set selection when using that image. The Product-ized netinsts are only 'officially supported' for deploying their own package sets. At least, that's the current plan. > > Kickstart Delivery > > Not really a criterion change, but we still list a diskette as a > supported > delivery mechanism [0]. Should we remove this, or do we still > actively test > using a diskette for ks delivery? Hum, not sure. I know I haven't had a floppy drive for like ten years so it might be hard to test, but people do do a lot of really weird stuff. > Updgrade Requirements > > This currently reads: "The release-blocking package sets are the > minimal set, > and the sets for each one of the release-blocking desktops." > > Should this be updated to "each one of the release-blocking > products and > release-blocking desktops?" Probably, yeah. It's a bit wiggly either way, but I like that one better... > Domain controller role > > The note says this criteria should be removed after F21 - but > since rolekit > relies on yum to install the bits needed for the domain > controller, should > we keep this in place for F22 through the dnf migration? It's supposed to be *moved* to a separate page, not just removed. I've had that proposal in draft for a while now, I should probably just go ahead and do it: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-January/001719.html > Cloud-init > > This was an oversight on my part originally. We need to define the > specific > bits of cloud-init that need to work. It'd be nice and easy to > just say, > "all of them," but cloud-init has a yum module and no dnf module. > We need > to figure out what to do about cloud-init if dnf support won't be > added. And by 'we', we mean 'you' ;) > Role installation > > For at least F22, do we need to have a criterion for installing > new roles > with rolekit? Or will "brought to a working configuration" cover > this enough? It might be worth explicitly covering that, yeah, I'll look at it when I come back to the role criteria change. > Final > ===== > > Domain controller role > > As with the beta, I'd suggest we keep this through F22 to make > sure things > work. Ditto Beta, it's not supposed to just 'disappear', it's just a rearrangement so we don't wind up with the criteria stuffed with requirements for X different server roles when we have more. > I know herding the Release Criteria is typically an Adam thing, It's not! Please! I would love if I never had to touch a release criterion again! Please, more people work on them! What do I have to do to get rid of this perception :P I work on them because *someone* has to do it, but the more other folks want to step in with ideas, the better... -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test