Re: Release criteria notes

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On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 03:21:53PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 11:24 -0700, Mike Ruckman wrote:
> > Greetings testers!
> > 
> > While looking into the affects of the yum/dnf migration I noticed 
> > some cleanup
> > opportunities with the release criteria and thought I'd email the 
> > list before
> > making any changes.
> > 
> > Beta
> > ====
> > 
> > Package set selection
> > 
> >   Should we update this to say "when using any network install 
> > image..."
> >   instead of "when using the generic?" I'd add a note with something 
> > like,
> >   "[Any?] This means any of the productized network installation 
> > media and
> >   the base network installation image."
> 
> No. I only just wrote this, and it's specifically this way for a 
> reason. We're getting the generic netinst back for F22, and we only 
> want to 'officially support' package set selection when using that 
> image. The Product-ized netinsts are only 'officially supported' for 
> deploying their own package sets. At least, that's the current plan.

Ah, ok. I must've have missed that. So will the prodcutized netinsts not
even offer other package sets?

> > 
> > Kickstart Delivery
> > 
> >   Not really a criterion change, but we still list a diskette as a 
> > supported
> >   delivery mechanism [0]. Should we remove this, or do we still 
> > actively test
> >   using a diskette for ks delivery?
> 
> Hum, not sure. I know I haven't had a floppy drive for like ten years 
> so it might be hard to test, but people do do a lot of really weird 
> stuff.

I think I might have a disk drive around here somewhere, but I don't
have disks any more (not even to use for coasters)...

> > Updgrade Requirements
> > 
> >   This currently reads: "The release-blocking package sets are the 
> > minimal set,
> >   and the sets for each one of the release-blocking desktops."
> > 
> >   Should this be updated to "each one of the release-blocking 
> > products and
> >   release-blocking desktops?"
> 
> Probably, yeah. It's a bit wiggly either way, but I like that one 
> better...
> 
> > Domain controller role
> > 
> >   The note says this criteria should be removed after F21 - but 
> > since rolekit
> >   relies on yum to install the bits needed for the domain 
> > controller, should
> >   we keep this in place for F22 through the dnf migration?
> 
> It's supposed to be *moved* to a separate page, not just removed. I've 
> had that proposal in draft for a while now, I should probably just go 
> ahead and do it:
> 
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/server/2015-January/001719.html
> 

Ah, that makes sense. I just wasn't sure from the wording on the
criteria pages themselves.

> > Cloud-init
> > 
> >   This was an oversight on my part originally. We need to define the 
> > specific
> >   bits of cloud-init that need to work. It'd be nice and easy to 
> > just say,
> >   "all of them," but cloud-init has a yum module and no dnf module. 
> > We need
> >   to figure out what to do about cloud-init if dnf support won't be 
> > added.
> 
> And by 'we', we mean 'you' ;)

Yeah, already working on it with gholms. I'll work through it with the
Cloud WG.

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