> On Thu, 2014-09-04 at 15:50 -0500, Michael Catanzaro wrote: >> >> So are we fine with the Windows and OS X criteria as originally >> proposed? Adam, would these be better as beta blockers or as final >> blockers? Historically it's been for final. All release criteria have a sort of catch all for major issues: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_21_Beta_Release_Criteria#Beta_Blocker_Bugs Installer is critical path, and its bugs tend not to be fixable after the face, so a bug with "severity rating of high" or greater can block release. Also, any bug that "hinders execution of required Beta test plans or dramatically reduces test coverage" can block release. An example bug I think qualifies: "Windows NTFS volume corrupted beyond repair during installation" https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1120964 Dual boot OS X + Fedora >> >> "The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an >> existing clean OS X installation and install a bootloader which can boot >> into both OS X and Fedora, OR the installer must prominently warn the >> user that he may be unable to boot OS X after installation, allowing the >> user to cancel installation and reboot to OS X." I think this potentially puts too much work on the installer and test teams for Fedora 21, for minimal benefit. For example with encrypted OS X installs, the above binds us to detect this, and then UI to warn the user. At the most, for Fedora 21, I'd say the installer could detect if it's Apple hardware, and refer the user to this URL no matter their current disk layout: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1310 which shows them how to boot OS X. Perhaps this could be put in release notes, or common bugs, or the install guide instead? Suggest the following. { The installer must be able to install into free space alongside an existing OS X installation, install and configure a bootloader that will boot Fedora; and if offered, also boot OS X. } - This means non-working OS X entries [1] need to be removed somehow [2]. - It allows a future fix that includes an OS X boot entry. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=893179 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=982847 [2] Option a: We already detect Macs as part of mactel-boot support; so if it's a Mac, then /etc/default/grub should contain a line: GRUB_DISABLE_OS_PROBER=true A consequence of this is any Mac with an existing Linux would not get boot entries for that Linux instance; violating the Linux + Fedora criteria if there's also no OS X on the system. But a Mac without OS X? Rare. Option b: Patch /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober deleting just the OS X entries creation. Chris Murphy -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
