On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 22:35 -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > On 12/08/2013 08:37 AM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: > > Curious, why it blew up right now, just before F20 is released. It > > should have happened in alpha and not now. > > > > Workaround is to yum group mark remove <group name here> for every group > > on the list. What a waste of time. > > Whatever you do - do not run "yum group mark convert". Now one of my systems > wants to install every Fedora package with "yum update". > > This affects all Fedoras with yum -120. Here's the parent bug: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1014202 I've found some time to look into this today, and I do not believe those two are the same bug. The error looks the same at a quick glance, but it is not the same and it is not on the same codepath. (yum's code actually contains about a dozen very similar warning messages produced by different checks at different points). I believe I've identified probably the most common case of this bug quite precisely. I forgot Piruthiviraj had filed #1039348 , so I filed a new bug about it, with the details I was able to figure out: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1043202 I managed to identify the specific change to yum which made these messages appear, and I think I know the attributes of the groups for which it appears: non-environment groups that are listed as installed in /var/lib/yum/groups/installed (also, possibly, through whatever other mechanisms yum has for listing installed groups; like everyone else, I'm having a lot of trouble grokking this yum-groups-as-objects thing), that exist in comps, but have <uservisible> set to false. It at least appears the check that was added is being run in circumstances where it wasn't expected to run. I don't know how many (if any) other bugs there are with the logic of the check itself and the /var/lib/yum/groups/installed file and the groups-as-objects change and whatever other goddamned changes are going on here. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test