On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:59 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 16:52 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:46 PM, Eric Blake <eblake@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On 11/19/2013 02:39 PM, Mateusz Marzantowicz wrote: >> > >> >> Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking is created >> >> and enabled on F20 by default. Personally I hate this, I don't use it >> >> and always disable it but as Adam mentioned there are a lot of different >> >> use cases and user's needs. >> > >> > Actually, NATed networking is created ONLY if you install >> > libvirt-daemon-config-network. If you don't want it installed by >> > default, then don't install that package. >> >> Ah ; yes, I see I do not have that package. >> >> What is the expected user experience for virtual networking out of the >> box on Fedora 20? [Given they select the "Virtualization" group >> during install.] > > I think this is the problem Chris Murphy wrote about as "a possible > related problem" and that Cole replied that he "fixed this in comps for > f20+ in October, so this shouldn't be an issue anymore" - that package > was not getting pulled in when you installed the Virtualization group, > but it was actually supposed to. I reviewed the /root/anaconda.cfg file and I didn't see a @virtualization (or similar named) group in the %packages section ; nor is there a "virtualization" group in "yum group list" output. (I notice as well that anaconda.cfg listed groups aren't one-to-one with yum's groups, ex. '@firefox' in anaconda.cfg, but not in yum.) Though, I do recall seeing an option related to virtualization during install, and am fairly sure I selected it (I was installing specifically to virtualize). How can I confirm my installation choices? How I can install the "virtualization" group (if yum doesn't know about it)? [I'm trying to check if the missing default virtual network is my fault, not an F20 problem.] Regards, Richard > -- > Adam Williamson > Fedora QA Community Monkey > IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net > http://www.happyassassin.net > > -- > test mailing list > test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe: > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test