On 19.11.2013 22:25, Richard Michael wrote: > On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM, Adam Williamson <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On Tue, 2013-11-19 at 13:35 -0500, Richard Michael wrote: >> >>> Aside, I'm wondering if F20 should have already created a bridge for >>> libvirt (e.g., should I need to create it myself?). I selected the >>> 'Virtualization' group. Perhaps this is related to Chris' down-thread >>> comment that not all required packages are in the group? >> >> No, AIUI, it does not and would never do that out of the box: it >> wouldn't really be appropriate for a package to go around screwing with >> your network config to that extent. It is not safe to assume anyone >> setting up 'virtualization' wants bridged networking; people who just >> want to use virt-manager as a VirtualBox-alike are probably happy with >> NATed networking. > > Yes, agreed ; although -- > > My installation did was missing the default local NAT network. > Reading the libvirt.org wiki just now, this should be "out of the > box". I followed the instructions to create it and get NAT working. > > Does the Fedora team expect this default network to be created? If > yes, I wonder if: > > a/ there is a missing a package from the "Virtualization" group > (probably not, given remarks elsewhere in the thread) > > or > > b/ a post-install script failure from an installed package failed to > import the default.xml file to initialize the virtual network > > Aside, I don't want to hijack the Fedora test list for > libvirt/virt-manager issues. Should I move this to another list? > Something went wrong in your installation. NATed networking is created and enabled on F20 by default. Personally I hate this, I don't use it and always disable it but as Adam mentioned there are a lot of different use cases and user's needs. I don't thing there are any missing packages related to virtualization now in Fedora 20. This is a false trail. Mateusz Marzantowicz -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test