On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 13:04:18 +0000
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > I've added it because have stated "bugs" go unanswered.
> > That is the "problem" need fixing, not bugzilla.
>
> There are 4 reasons that happens.
>
> 1. the packager is gone awol
1a: Not a buzilla problem, housekeeping
> 2. the packager does not know how to fix
2a: If it a bug, that is know upstream link it,
if it's fedora packing\config issue, help him understand
> 3. the maintainer lacks time to fix it.
3a: Then should he be maintainer, if he cannot maintain?
> 4. bugzilla is not the interface the maintainer finds effective so
> he ignores it
It it part of fedora, help him learn it's ways
>
> >
> > Is missing maintainer period too long?
> > Extra co-maintainers needed, with commit access?
> >
> > Now can you throw as much endeavour into helping resolve that
> >
>
> To effectively resolve that you need to reduce the total number of
> components in the distribution as well as how many components
> maintainer is allowed to maintain as well as finding the
> communication interface with the maintainer which he finds
> effective.
Agreed, or get maintainers in, and help them understand Fedora ways.
But, I agree if John Does, want to bring in package foo,
as his admittance price. Then he best know it's every inch.
>
> Reporting upstream is one solution to the interface problem,
What if they too have bugzilla, bummer.
The problem with many upstream is the dreaded "Works for me"
> detecting poorly maintained packages as well as orphaning
> unmaintained packages and coming up with a time sharing program
> takes care of the rest.
(1a) ^
>
> With the exception of reporting directly upstream which I have been
> always against, I pointed out the other things and you can find the
> discussion surrounding that in the archives on devel.
>
I'm not against reporting upstream, for a specific issue,
where maintainer has said, can you please report upstream,
as problem is agnostic.
Gnome is a special case, as upstream <> downstream can be overlapped,
and the gnome-sig know their pkgs.
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Regards,
Frank
www.frankly3d.com
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