On Mon, 23 Sep 2013 23:21:13 +0000, Jóhann B. Guðmundsson wrote: > On 09/23/2013 11:07 PM, Bill Nottingham wrote: > > > > - Not all things we ship have active upstream bug trackers to fall back on > > What do you think that tells us about the thing we are shipping? Nothing. There are large projects as well as small projects, some with non-public bug tracking only, but with good reachability via email (or message boards or IRC). > > Honestly, I think a good dedicated triage team that works to verify and move > > upstream as appropriate works better. But, you know, requires getting and > > keeping such a team. > > Quite frankly that has been proven not to work and quite frankly the > packager should be the one playing that middle man ( which is not > working either ). It's not feasible in all cases. It fails already, if a bug reporter doesn't answer questions (in the worst case whether the problem is reproducible with the latest development code?). The most a "middle man" can do in that case is forwarding a bug report upstream without prior triaging or contributing a patch. That's not very helpful. Especially not if a problem is not reproducible. There are upstreams that move on immediately, if the first attempt at reproducing a problem is not successful or if the backtrace may be just due to side-effects. -- test mailing list test@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test
