On Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:44:32 +0000 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 07/05/2013 05:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > Greetings. > > > > I'd like to propose some changes to the spins process for F20. > > I'm sending this just to the spins and test lists first, to try and > > hash out things, then we can move on to running it the devel list > > once we have more concrete plans. > > You should rather be reaching out to the sub community surrounding > those spins. The maintainers of the spins should be subscribed to the spins list where I sent this. If they have 'sub communities' they should feel free to pass along to them or ask them to chime in. > ??? > > You do realize at alpha we have the most fluctuation of the > installer, the base OS stack including X right so you cannot require > spins to pass any tests that might be affected by it right? I would expect them to pass any tests that release blocking spins pass... why not? > > > > At Beta: > > > > * All Alpha tests, and > ?? > > * The image meets it's size goal. <-- This makes resonable alpha > > goal we really should not be dealing with size issue after alpha > > not limited to spins... Feel free to propose moving that. > > * The image boots with all supported live media boot methods. > > There is no such thing as support so please stop labelling things as > such seriously. I was just copying from the wiki: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_20_Beta_Release_Criteria#Initialization_requirements "All release-blocking images must boot in their supported configurations." > Any of the available boot method should suffice here. > > > > > > > At Final: > > > > * All Beta test and > > Which beta test would that be? The ones above in "At Beta" > > * No selinux denials on boot/login > > Makes sense > > > At the Alpha milestone, all approved spins will be created by > > rel-eng. > > > > Each approved spin MUST have at least 2 people fill in the Basic > > spin test matrix for at least 1 TC or RC. If the image fails, > > maintainers can try again at the next milestone, but the image is > > NOT shipped for that milestone. if an image doesn't get 2 people > > filling in Basic spin tests, the image is dropped for that cycle > > and IS NOT SHIPPED FOR THAT RELEASE! Such images can be reapproved > > by the spins sig for the next cycle. > > ??? > > It should be sufficient for a single individual to go through all > related tests for a spin. ok. So far sounding like folks want just one ack. Anyone feel strongly it should be more? > People creating spins should be allowed to create sub community > surrounding their spins and will not be able to do that with those > insane requirements. If they have a "sub community" shouldn't that mean there's at least one other person in it that could test? > Bear in mind that anything you decide here should be applicable to > the Gnome live spin as well. The KDE and Desktop (Gnome) spins are not included here, as they are release blocking, so they already have their own critera. kevin
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