On 07/05/2013 05:03 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
Greetings.
I'd like to propose some changes to the spins process for F20.
I'm sending this just to the spins and test lists first, to try and hash
out things, then we can move on to running it the devel list once we
have more concrete plans.
You should rather be reaching out to the sub community surrounding those
spins.
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Spins shall be the cannonical
list of approved spins by the sig.
A Milestone is one of Alpha, Beta, Final.
A basic spin test will be created (Or perhaps we can re-use the Basic
desktop test, or whatever QA folks would prefer). This basic spin test
will test:
At Alpha:
* The image composes.
* The image boots with any method
* The liveuser user can login
* The user can apply updates
???
You do realize at alpha we have the most fluctuation of the installer,
the base OS stack including X right so you cannot require spins to pass
any tests that might be affected by it right?
At Beta:
* All Alpha tests, and
??
* The image meets it's size goal. <-- This makes resonable alpha goal we really should not be dealing with size issue after alpha not limited to spins...
* The image boots with all supported live media boot methods.
There is no such thing as support so please stop labelling things as
such seriously.
Any of the available boot method should suffice here.
At Final:
* All Beta test and
Which beta test would that be?
* No selinux denials on boot/login
Makes sense
At the Alpha milestone, all approved spins will be created by rel-eng.
Each approved spin MUST have at least 2 people fill in the Basic spin
test matrix for at least 1 TC or RC. If the image fails, maintainers
can try again at the next milestone, but the image is NOT shipped for
that milestone. if an image doesn't get 2 people filling in Basic spin
tests, the image is dropped for that cycle and IS NOT SHIPPED FOR THAT
RELEASE! Such images can be reapproved by the spins sig for the next
cycle.
???
It should be sufficient for a single individual to go through all
related tests for a spin.
People creating spins should be allowed to create sub community
surrounding their spins and will not be able to do that with those
insane requirements.
At the Beta milestone, only those images that got testing in the Alpha
milestone will be produced.
At the Final milestone, only those images that were tested at the Beta
release will be produced.
The http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/20/Spins page will be
enhanced with a 'Alpha/Beta/Final' field, where we can note what spins
are in what state.
Questions/Feedback needed on:
- Is 2 people too many? Should it just be 1? or More?
- Are there other Basic tests we should require?
- Is there a better way to track things than that wiki page?
- Is there a good way to make sure all spins maintainers are aware of
these changes and are not surprised by them?
Anything else?
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/spins
Bear in mind that anything you decide here should be applicable to the
Gnome live spin as well.
JBG
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