Re: 2012-10-08, 2012-10-15, 2012-10-22 - Fedora QA Meeting - recap

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On 10/24/2012 06:15 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
Right. I do wish you wouldn't exaggerate things, Johann. The criteria
are a part of Fedora as a whole, they define what the project considers
minimum acceptable functionality for each release point. They are not
solely a QA issue, other teams clearly have input into the question.

we are the one who create the criteria
we are the ones that follow it
we are the ones that test if the relevant stuff meets the criteria

Yes developers and packagers might do mistakes but in the end it's we ( QA/Releng ) the ones that are ultimately responsible for the overall quality of the release we are the last line of defense for the end user and we are the ones that should handle this ( from my pov. )

Asking the relevant developer group in this case Anaconda if they think we are setting *our* distribution criteria to high to meet their *own* software or even the group of individuals that approved the newUI feature accepted it and allowed it with no better contingency plan than what was given. An group of people that seem to be incapable of answering one simply question I have asked on numerous occasion when it became clear that the newUI installer is no way ready to be released to the general public. Why the rush? why not push it back a release to allow it to stabilize a bit more?

And so I quote yourself to FESCO...

"Additionally, RH has asked its staff on the anaconda team to prioritize work on a pending RHEL release over work on Fedora 18, and that is happening, which may further delay work on the upgrade tool and the current blocker list."

Yet another alarm bell ringing and where does this leave us ( the project ) with the installer?

So excuse me for being skeptical about FESCO decision making and an development group that no longer has the time to develop the distributions installer for showing concerns and "exaggerate things.

JBG
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